Why Men Lie About Sex

[BelizeanBrownSugar]

Study Probes Why Men Lie About Sex
Researcher: 'Men Are Pigs' May Not Be Whole Answer

March 13, 2003

Some people might conclude that men overestimate the number of sexual partners they've had because they're pigs.

But Norman Brown, a University of Alberta professor of psychology, has other theories.

He says there is important information to be gathered from his survey of approximately 1,100 heterosexual Canadians, who were asked to recall how many sexual partners they had had during their lives.


Two-thirds of women said they knew precisely how many partners they had and reported an average of 6.2. Men on the other hand were twice as likely to say they had no idea and on average guessed 11.9.

"Every time a man has sex with a woman, a woman has to have sex with a man. So either there are some very lucky joes out there or someone is not getting their numbers right," Brown said.

Brown is a cognitive psychologist, which means he studies how people acquire, organize, and utilize real-world knowledge. So after they answered the question, they were asked how they came up the number they gave.

By asking respondents how they came up with their number, Brown was able to work out what methods men and women were more likely to use when calculating the number of sexual partners.

He found that men were twice as likely as women to use a rough approximation method, while women were more likely to think about individual incidents and calculate the number this way. People who had had few sexual partners were the most likely to say they just knew.

It remains unclear how male overestimation could result in such a wide disparity in the reported number of partners.

Brown has three theories, none of which are very flattering to men. One is that men cannot be bothered to remember individual lovers. The next is that men are lazy or don't have the patience to think seriously when answering a telephone poll. The third is his 'Don Juan' theory that there might in fact be a number of men in Alberta who have been, in Brown's words, "lucky joes."

Brown said his findings have applicability in a number of areas, including strategies for dealing with people who engage in high-risk sexual behavior.

[Melody]

I don't know about those guys that have sex with too many girls. That is nasty for men and women, but I think that men think it is cool to have sex with a different girl every night. Most girls I know tend to have sex with the same man/men even if they aren't in a relationship. I know this guy that admits that he likes to have sex with different women. Just once and he moves on. That's scary.

[BelizeanBrownSugar]

I have a lot of male associates and it becomes very disgusting after a while. They sleep around, and have no scruples. They handle these girls like tissue, and they don't realize it. But I guess if these females put up with it, who is to blame. It’s very scary and I wish they would be more cautious, their excuse is always I'm using a condom or she is not the one to settle down with...but still they go from a girl to girl. To see it going on it’s disgusting! But like our favorite statement "to each their own". I just try to stay away from men like that. If you can’t be up front with what you are doing, don’t bring it to me.
It could be the cost of my life.[/size]

[BelizeanPoet]

Whenever situations like this arise we always look to someonelse to lay blame on but there is no one to blame but the women who encourage them in their Bull. If the women weren’t so easily led into bed, then these men would not have these tales to tell. They are placing themselves and others at risk even if they use condoms cause we all know they break at times.

I also do believe that some men do lie about the number of sex partners they have and just as how they lie about the large amount they sleep with to come across like Mr. Macho this and that, they can also lie and say it’s only been three when their history goes back as early childhood days. The best remedies, be smart about who you date and what you do in bed with them. Trust no one but yourself because we all lie and that lie may cost you your life. He may claim you are number 5 when you are in fact #50 who he infects with an STD.

[Melody]

Honestly, I don't know too many girls that sleep around. Girls have sex with guys because they think he is a nice guy and think that they like them. Girls should ask more questions to find out where that guys head is at. Most guys want sex only and don't want to settle down period. But that won't happen to any girl as long as she keeps her legs shut and be selective about who she lets in. You can tell when a guy only wants to hit and split, but there are probably some guys that are real clever.

[glow=red,2,300]This is my opinion and I might be wrong: You should never have sex with a guy too early. By waiting he will respect you more as a person instead of an object. I think that most guys initially see women as a sex object and all they want is sex. They don't see brains, personality or talents, just a sexual challenge. Even if he begs for it, he really isn't ready for it, so don't give in. He won't be able to trust you afterwards and he will think bad about you. And drop you. If he gives up and drops all contact because the chances of sex look slim then you know what his main objective was. Basically just because a guy is a dog doesn't mean we have to be nasty b***hes. Its a double standard. I believe that you can't change a ho into a housewife, but you can teach a dog some manners. I may have it twisted [/glow]

[dre]

Interesting? I know how that professor came up with such a big difference about men and woman sexual partners. HE DIDN"T ASK THE HOOKERS, the men had sex with. He only asked the average woman and the average woman only have 6 sexual partners. The man he's counting everything, even the neighbor dog he got last week, and the hand job the girl at the office gave him, and the blow job the crackhead gave him. So come on.

Sex is Sex. If a woman wants to be respected, then act respectful. I've read all the comments posted so far and not one suggest that a woman should wait till she gets married. You know what that tells me? That tells me that deep down everywoman here wants it as much as the man, they just want the security to know that she is the only one he will be dipping into.

So ladies, if you want your man to respect you and have only you, get the patients and guts, to tell him, the only way you get inside these panties that's if you marry me.

No woman today has the guts to do that. Do you know why? Because Joe-Blow can go to the Club the next night and pick up Easy Susy and the same thing he asked you for, Easy Susy will supply with no problem, no questions and strings attached. Because Easy Susy just wants to get pounded! So we play this lets wait and see game.

Pull his punk card, don't give it up till he says I do infront of family, friends and God.

But if you just want to be horny wait for three months until you're convinced he has paid his dues. That you've let him waited long enough and he's been a good boy by respecting your little wishes and taken you to dinner and call you on time to see if you're okay and rubs your toe when they hurt, and bring you flowers just because, and send you a singing telegram and writes you a nice poem and jump on top of the car and yell, I'm crazy about this woman, then after he's done all this (and still hasn't asked you to marry him) but you are now convinced he truly loves you, then go ahead and drop those panties and give him a little taste of heaven.

Just remember ladies. It's all a game to the man. He just got to get use to the court before he can find out how to score.

[BelizeanBrownSugar]

Wow!
Jeez I'm glad you are here, and responded!
I agree times have changed, and sex is taken very lightly. "Wait till you get married, who? When? Where? ; Its very uncommon these days. So why shouldn’t men go for "Easy Susy". And you are damn right, let them wait! Let them get to know you first. And I do practice that 3 months or when I think you've earned it rule. But respect from men is all about the decisions we (woman) make. And MOST of the time they DO think differently when you give it up fast! What do you think dre; does it make a difference how long you take to get it? Or is does it vary on the woman and personality?

[dre]

Please forgive me if I go long responding to this.

Personally I believe it does not make a difference. The devil don't mind if he gets your soul today or 100 years from now. As long as he ends up with it he's happy.

Man is the same way when chasing Kuchie.

When I was a teenager I went with a girl that said she was not going to have sex until she was 26 or older. I didn't believe her. I went with this girl for two years from when I was 16 to 18 and the farthest I got with her was feeling on her through her panties. Finally after 2 years i gave up and moved on, cause I new she was not giving it up. A friend of mine started talking to her and he said he would have her in bed within a month. After talking to her for about 2 months they finally started going together. Three weeks later they broke up. He said he don't believe she was going to give it up.

That girl is now married, but she didnt get married until she was 30 I believe, and if she tells me she was still a virgin when she got married I would believe it.

I respect that girl (woman) a whole lot. She stood her grounds and held on to her morals. She did not give in to peer pressure or boyfriend pressure. I was pissed at the time when she told me no, but today she has my total respect. By contrast she had a twin. And her twin was completely opposite from her. For which I have no respect.

My opinon is this. Women has so much power, but I don't think they know how to use it. They have bought into the feminist lie, that they are equal with men. Women are not equal to men, never had been. They are more powerful than men. Do you now how many Wars have been fought over the love of a woman?

A woman can control a man, train a man, and make a man. You think men comes up with all these wonderful ideas. No they go to bed and there is a smart woman next to him giving him advice. Then they applaud the man for being a genius. It's all a joke.

The answer to your question, "does it make a difference how long you take to get it?"

No it doesn't make a difference. Because the ultimate goal is to get inside the panties without a promise of marriage. If a girl give me a choice to live with her or to marry her, which one you think I will chose? I will chose the option that gives me more flexibility to leave when I find someone more intersting. Never give a man choice. Because he will chose the option of least resistance.

Your next question: Or does it vary on the woman and personality?"

I don't know how to answer this question. Because personality can take you a long way. But to be honest with you, if a girl has the best personality in the world then with that comes morals, charms and everything that's beautiful within a person. And when a man finds that then he finds a wife. He will have found a friend that he can spend the rest of his life with. And that girl will not have to worry about him asking her for sex, because he won't. Because he won't care about that. He'll know that once she's his wife he will get all the sex he can stand.

I personally believe that a person shouldn't date unless they are planning to get married. If you don't plan on getting married then dating is just a process that you go through to look for someone, within reasonable time to sleep with it.

If I was a woman, I would not let no man test drive me as if though I was a new or used car for sale. Nor try me out as if though I was a shoe or a Dress. Someone once asked me, 'what if that person is not good bed?'

You think you're going to be young forever? One day you will turn 60, 65, 70 years old and sex won't matter no more. To counter that arguement; why do you think men look for virgins to marry? A virgin isn't experience in bed. A man don't want someone the whole British Army have trod through. Regardless of what you've seen in porno movies, most men wants a woman with least sexual partners as possible.

To me the experience of exploring new sexual pleasures together with the one you love is more satisfying that getting it from Johnny come lately, or Peter rock the boat.

What happens if you give it up before marriage? Well just like the new car you'll probably get traded for a better one within a year or two. But If he marries you, then if I were you I would move to a state like California and if he wants to trade you in after a couple of years, guess what? At least you get half of what he has.

Ladies your bodies are precious temples. Don't let just anyone come into it and defile it. Save it for that one person that will truly worship and cherish it.

Never Give It up. If he wants it bad enough, he'll sell all he has and buy a ring and marry you.

[Melody]

That was very well said, you made some good points.

"A woman can control a man, train a man, and make a man. You think men comes up with all these wonderful ideas. No they go to bed and there is a smart woman next to him giving him advice. Then they applaud the man for being a genius. It's all a joke."

"I personally believe that a person shouldn't date unless they are planning to get married. If you don't plan on getting married then dating is just a process that you go through to look for someone, within reasonable time to sleep with it."[glow=red,2,300] Very true, if after a certain amount of time, you don't see yourself staying with a person for a lifetime, then you should move on or it is a waste of time and energy.[/glow]

[BelizeanPoet]

Yeah Melody, all that is true, you should concentrate more on a lifetime partner than on getting laid but how many people actually live by these rules, not many I bet or there would be far more marriages and in effect far more divorces as well.

How many women in this day and age are actually saving themseleves for marriage??? It's sad but it's reality. Maybe if people on a whole would wait until marriage before engaging in sex, a wide range of problems would diminish as well, like the vast spreading of HIV/AIDS and other STD's, child abuse, child
Abandonment and more.
.

But it is true, we should try and find our soulmates or a person worthy of us marrying rather than just date then break up.

[Melody]

Naw, another problem is people that co-habitat and never get married. Living with a guy and acting like you are married is not good enough. He gets off easy. He doesn't have to buy any diamonds or pay for weddings or put it on paper to make it real legit! Basically, he gets all the benefits of marriage without investing a significant amount of money.

[BelizeanPoet]

It ain’t all about the amount of money you spend on a wedding but the meaning behind it all. For richer or poorer, in sickness and in health. A lifetime partner that you should love and grow to love with time.

[BelizeanPoet]

I think we need more men in the forum to answer questions like these. It’s always just the women debating against Dre.